The Write Place (formerly The Joined Up Writing Podcast)
Joined Up Writing is now The Write Place! A new name but the same great content - hundreds of interviews with writers giving the stories behind their books and paths to publication. Packed with advice, inspiration and tips and hosted by crime writer, producer and writing coach, Wayne Kelly, The Write Place is a regular podcast for writers and book lovers. Tuesdays on the Web, iTunes, Android and Spotify.
The Write Place (formerly The Joined Up Writing Podcast)
Finish the Book: Ilona Andrews on Hard Truths About Writing, Publishing and Persistence
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In this episode, I’m joined by bestselling husband-and-wife writing duo Ilona Andrews, who have been writing together professionally since 2007.
We dive into what it really looks like to build a long-term writing career as a partnership, how they’ve navigated both traditional and self-publishing, and why removing ego from the creative process is essential if you want to produce your best work.
We also talk about their latest novel This Kingdom Will Not Kill Me, a departure into epic fantasy, and how it came from an idea that simply wouldn’t leave them alone.
Along the way, there’s plenty of honest insight into the realities of publishing, the importance of finishing what you start, and why writing is less about inspiration and more about showing up and doing the work.
✍️ In This Episode, We Cover:
- How Ilona Andrews make co-writing actually work in practice
- The origin and concept behind This Kingdom Will Not Kill Me
- The shift from urban fantasy into epic fantasy
- The realities of traditional publishing vs self-publishing
- Why self-publishing offers freedom but comes with trade-offs
- The importance of finishing a book, not just starting one
🧠 Best Advice from the Episode
- “If it works, do it.”
- “Give yourself permission to write badly so you can finish.”
- “You have to put your butt in the chair and make words.”
- “50 unfinished books equal zero finished books.”
🌐 Find Out More About Ilona Andrews
Website: https://ilona-andrews.com
They’re particularly active on their blog, sharing writing insights, industry thoughts and the occasional slice of everyday life.
This Kingdom Will Not Kill Me is available now from all major retailers, including special editions through UK outlets such as Waterstones.